15/10/2020

Greta Thunberg: ‘Only People Like Me Dare Ask Tough Questions On Climate’

The Guardian

The activist discusses a new film that follows her life and the role autism played in her journey from troubled child to eco champion

Greta Thunberg outside the Swedish parliament building in Stockholm. Photograph: Anders Hellberg

For a teenager who first became famous for skipping school, Greta Thunberg has come a long way.

The 17-year-old from Stockholm is today a global champion of the environment movement and the uncompromising scourge of climate crisis deniers.

In the process, she has earned the disdain of Donald Trump and the plaudits of figures including the pope and David Attenborough. For good measure, Time made her the magazine’s Person of the Year for 2019.

It is an astonishing journey that will be brought to our screens this week with the release of I am Greta, a 97-minute documentary that follows the activist, who has autism, on trips round the world as she raises the banners of green concern among young campaigners.



At the United Nations, we see her warning its secretary general, António Guterres, that “political leaders have failed us – but now change is coming”.

At the Vatican, we see her greeted by a huge crowd chanting “Go Greta, save the planet!” and, later, flotillas of boats sailing out to meet her when the zero-carbon yacht that had carried her across the Atlantic to attend a UN climate meeting arrives in New York.

As I am Greta makes clear, the world has reacted in a remarkable way to this slight, determined figure. 

Even more astonishing is the nature of the figure at the centre of these events, for Thunberg is adamant that her condition – she freely acknowledges she is autistic – has played a critical role in helping her get her message across in a clear and simple manner.

Thunberg addressing the UN Climate Summit in New York. Photograph: Jason DeCrow/AP

“To get out of this climate crisis, we need a different mindset from the one that got us into it,” she said in an interview with the Observer last week.

“People like me – who have Asperger’s syndrome and autism, who don’t follow social codes – we are not stuck in this social game of avoiding important issues.

“We dare to ask difficult questions. It helps us see through the static while everyone else seems to be content to role-play.”

Thunberg believes her condition helps her look at the world and see what others cannot, or will not, see. She dislikes small talk and socialising, preferring to stick to routines and stay “laser-focused”.

And her ability to concentrate fiercely is acknowledged by her father, Svante Thunberg. “She can read a book and remember everything in it,” he says ruefully.

But while she argues that her disorder has given her a unique vision of the looming crisis being unleashed by rising carbon dioxide emissions, we see that it has also brought her considerable unhappiness.

Her early childhood was marked by several painful episodes, and at the age of 11 she simply withdrew from life. “She stopped laughing,” says her mother, Malena Ernman. “She stopped talking. And she stopped eating.”

As Thunberg puts it: “I almost starved to death.”

The youngster stayed away from school for a year. “She only spoke to me, her mother and her little sister,” says her father in the documentary.

Thunberg is equally forthcoming in the film about the unhappiness she experienced.

“For many years, people – especially children – were very mean to me. I was never invited to parties or celebrations. I was always left out. I spent most of my time socialising with my family – and my dogs.” (The latter, black labrador Roxy and golden retriever Moses, play major roles in her life, as the film makes clear.)

Thunberg managed to pull back from the brink, however, and for most of the documentary we see a fairly happy individual: cooking with her mother and laughing with her father. Nevertheless, hers is an unusual background for a person who has become a global star.

Thunberg with Belgian campaigners on a school climate strike in Brussels in 2019.

The process began with her school strike – against Swedish politicians’ failures to take meaningful action on the climate crisis. “Why have an education when there is no future,” she demanded.

The strike was a social media sensation and almost overnight Thunberg became a star of the green movement.

She has since spoken to the UN nations in New York, appeared at the COP24 climate conference in Katowice, in Poland and visited the European Parliament.

At the EU she broke down in tears during a speech in which she outlined the extent of the extinctions, triggered by climate change, that were occurring across the planet.

And at the 2019 UN climate summit in New York, an infuriated Thunberg told delegates: “People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money and fairytales about eternal economic growth. How dare you!”

Intriguingly, Thunberg insists her performance at the general assembly was an unusual one for her. “I’m never angry. I’m not even angry at home. That was the only time I’ve been angry. Before that speech, I thought, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. I need to make sure something comes out of it. So I let my emotions take over.”
"We are stuck in a loop where everyone just blames each other, and if we keep on doing that, we won’t achieve anything"
Greta Thunberg
Her words are pretty uncompromising in general, however, and her speeches have earned her the approbation of fans who range from Arnie Schwarzenegger to Jon Bercow to Emmanuel Macron and also attracted the scorn of Brazil’s populist president Jair Bolsonaro, Russia’s Vladimir Putin, and others.

Thunberg has also received death threats, we learn. So are they still being sent, I ask her? Thunberg looks unfazed. “I don’t know. I don’t spend that much time checking.”

She is equally unperturbed by the political derision she has provoked. “When these people attack individuals – in some cases, children like me – that shows that they really have nowhere left to go,” she tells me.

“They have no arguments left. This is a crisis completely based on scientific consensus, but they try to focus on something else. It’s as if there was a fire and the alarm starts and they try to argue about the fire alarm instead of the actual fire.”

The pattern needs to be disrupted, she insists. “We are stuck in a loop where everyone just blames each other, and as long as we keep on doing that we won’t be able to achieve anything.”

The extent of humanity’s vulnerability is starkly demonstrated by the impact of Covid-19, adds Thunberg. “If one virus can completely destroy economies, then that is a sign that we need to rethink things and start to live sustainably.”

If nothing else, Covid emphasises again that we need to listen to the science, she insists.

Thunberg is now studying for her school exams and is planning a career in the social sciences.

“All this attention isn’t going to last for very long,” she believes. “The interest in me will soon fade away. And, really, it’s not healthy at such a young age. So I need to see past it – although all the travelling was good fun.”

As to the documentary, Thunberg says she is happy with it, although the title makes her uncomfortable as it suggests she takes herself very seriously. “And I don’t,” she insists.

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(AU) 5 Australian Women Who Are Solving The Biggest Problems Of Climate Change.

MamamiaGemma Bath

L'Oreal-UNESCO Women in Science program



In a world preoccupied by the coronavirus pandemic (and for good reason), another global emergency is being somewhat forgotten.

Climate change. 

Thankfully for us, there are still plenty of remarkable minds working away behind the scenes on future-proofing our planet for the decades to come.

While a pandemic responsible for killing one million people around the world (and rising) should never be celebrated, there have been some flow-on effects that are benefiting our fight for the planet.

We're living through the biggest carbon crash we have ever recorded, with a number of different analyses showing we will be using between two and three billion tonnes less warming gas in 2020. 

But air travel won't stay grounded forever, and road transport will eventually return to normal levels sending our CO2 levels climbing once again.

So while our governments, virus scientists and policy-makers remain largely preoccupied by coronavirus, climate scientists and experts are busy working on solutions.

Here are just five women (four Aussies and one New Zealander) who are making serious scientific progress when it comes to addressing climate change. All were recently awarded $25,000 Fellowships for their work, as part of the 2020 L'Oréal-UNESCO For Women in Science program.

Dr Kate Nguyen - chemical and civil engineer
Dr Kate Nguyen Image: L'Oreal-UNESCO

Dr Kate Nguyen from RMIT University is currently working on a sustainable coating that could literally save thousands of homes from bushfires.

Last year our bushfire season was unprecedented, killing 34 people, nearly three billion animals and destroying at least 3,500 homes in thousands of fires. We've been warned more seasons like the devastation of 2019/2020 are in our future as our planet continues to warm.

Dr Nguyen's ceramic-like coating is made from industrial waste that would ordinarily end up in landfill, turned into an environmentally friendly coating that will provide a protective envelope over a building.

Speaking to Mamamia, Dr Nguyen says she was inspired by naturally fire resistant native trees in Australia, and as a mother of two young girls she is very interested in helping "the sustainable development of our cities for future generations."

Thanks to funding support from the L'Oréal-UNESCO For Women in Science program, Dr Nguyen has been able to start work on the project immediately in 2020, and while the coating won't be ready for the bushfire season that's already upon us, she's hopeful to have some pilot applications up and running for the 2021/2022 season.

"Like millions of Australians I watched with horror the bushfires that ravaged part of the country earlier this year. I hope my research can protect many homes in fire-stricken areas," said Dr Nguyen.



Dr Emma Camp - coral biologist and marine bio-geochemist
Dr Emma Camp Image: L'Oreal-UNESCO

Thanks to our warming planet, we are at a real risk of losing Queensland's incredible Great Barrier Reef within our lifetime.

The reefs aren't just beautiful, they're essential for our marine life - taking up just one per cent of the ocean floor, but housing 20 per cent of our marine life.

University of Technology Sydney's Dr Emma Camp is focusing her expertise on finding resistant corals that have the ability to survive in increasingly hostile ocean conditions.

Dr Camp hopes to understand the genetic traits of these corals and seed a stock of them which they can then transplant into areas devastated by mass coral death, to hopefully bide us some time as we take action, as a global community, while we reduce our carbon emissions.

Speaking to Mamamia Dr Camp says 2020 has given us a new perspective.

"The global disruption to our normal way of life due to COVID-19 presents a unique opportunity to create a new norm, one where we are not separate from nature and we focus on addressing the loss of biodiversity and climate change," she said.

"If we lose coral reefs we lose not only an immensely beautiful, intricate and fascinating ecosystem, we lose the biodiversity it maintains and a whole suite of ecosystem services they provide," Dr Camp told Mamamia.

"My research is looking to aid corals by 'buying them time,' but we fundamentally need to address the causes of climate change... the continued barrier of inaction or slow action is frustrating and heartbreaking as I am witnessing the impacts it is having on our amazing reef systems," she warned.



Dr Marzi Barghamadi - experimental scientist
Dr Marzi Barghamadi Image: L'Oreal-UNESCO

CSIRO's Dr Marzi Barghamadi is working on lithium metal battery technology, to create longer lasting and higher power batteries so that we can all one day zip around in powerful electric cars.

There are several critical changes that must be addressed for these kinds of batteries to meet requirements, and Dr Barghamadi's research aims to solve one of the biggest challenges - the mechanism behind metal degradation that results in batteries with a low cycle life and low safety.

"We all want electric cars that will allow us to drive longer distances with one charge," she explained.

"Lithium batteries have a much lower environmental impact than fossil fuels. So, the aim is to replace more fossil fuels with these batteries," she added.

Realistically, Dr Barghamadi doesn't see electric cars being rolled out en masse in the "early future," but tells Mamamia, "we can speed this transition."

"Governments, especially in developed countries, could look at investing more in green energy sources and supporting climate change initiatives," she said.

In 2019, electric vehicles made up roughly about 0.5 per cent of all vehicles on the road, but Dr Barghamadi is confident that "they could be, and will be our future reality if we as a society take considered steps towards this transition."



Dr Adele Morrison - climate and fluid physicist
Dr Adele Morrison Image: L'Oreal-UNESCO

Australian National University scientist Adele Morrison spends her days researching oceanic movements around Antarctica's ice sheet to determine when coastal cities will be at risk of rising sea levels. 

It's pretty grim stuff, but as Dr Morrison tells Mamamia: "The response needed to limit global warming is simple. The first step is to reduce CO2 emissions to zero as soon as possible and the technology to do this already exists."

Dr Morrison is talking about things like renewable electricity, pumped hydropower, electric vehicles, electric heating and hydrogen powered aircraft.

"It's just the willpower that's lacking," she said, pointing to the Australian government's approach as one that's "clearly not working."

With 85 per cent of the Australian population currently living within coastal regions, rising sea levels are of a major concern, and Dr Morrison's research is crucial for the future planning of our country. 

But for someone who literally spends her days mapping when cities will likely be underwater, Dr Morrison is confident we can turn things around.

"The bold and science led response to COVID-19 by both state and federal governments has been one of the most successful responses in the world. It shows Australia is capable of swiftly tackling an emergency situation," she told Mamamia

"We need a similar ambitious science-led approach to reduce the risk of climate change."



Dr Shari Gallop - marine environmental scientist
Dr Shari Gallop Image: L'Oreal-UNESCO

Dr Shari Gallop, from the University of Waikato in New Zealand, is looking into the restoration of estuaries, which are present on coasts all around the world and are hugely important for the preservation of the ecosystems that prop up many of our communities. 

Many of the world's largest cities, including Sydney, New York, Tokyo and London, are built around estuaries, and right now they're under increasing pressure.

"Now we know better that estuaries are really important, [but] in the past they have sometimes been considered as 'low value' which means they often haven't been taken care of as they should," Dr Gallop told Mamamia.

Dr Gallop is focusing on 'working with nature' approaches to restore these highly vulnerable interfaces between the land and sea, and is trying to get a better understanding of what makes these restoration projects succeed or fail, so we can continue to future proof them. 

"Without these answers, we could be designing estuarine restoration projects and putting huge amounts of resources into making them happen, perhaps without a full consideration and appropriate tools to account for the impacts of climate change," she told Mamamia. 



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(AU) ANU's Adele Morrison Receives $25,000 L'Oréal-UNESCO For Women In Science Grant For Climate Change Research

Canberra Times - Amy Martin

Adele Morrison secured a fellowship and grant from the L'Oréal-UNESCO For Women in Science program. Picture: Sitthixay Ditthavong

If all of Antarctica was to melt, it would increase the sea level by nearly 60 metres and would see cities such as Sydney disappear.

It's not a pleasant thing to think about but for Australian National University scientist Adele Morrison, it's something that she considers on a daily basis.

The climate and fluid physicist researches oceanic movements around Antarctica's ice sheet to determine when coastal cities will be at risk of rising sea levels. It is this work which on Monday saw her awarded a fellowship and a $25,000 grant from the L'Oréal-UNESCO For Women in Science program.

The L'Oréal-UNESCO For Women in Science program aims to address the under-representation of women in science.

According to United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) data, less than 30 per cent of the world's researchers are female.

It's for this reason that Dr Morrison says the benefit of receiving the grant is not just what the money will do for her research but that it also draws attention to the under-representation of women in science.

"It depends on what level of science you're looking at. The numbers at a PhD level and early career stage - which is where I am - are actually pretty equal," she says.

"The problem occurs higher up at the leadership stage. In Australia, 17 per cent of senior Australian researchers working in science are female. It just drops off dramatically at about this stage because that's when women start having kids and it becomes hard to keep working at the top level.

"Universities in Australia are fantastic - at least at ANU it is - and they've put in a lot of great policies for helping women and trying to increase the representation at higher levels.

"But this culture is only just really starting to change, and internationally it's pretty dire."

Dr Morrison is undertaking advanced computer modelling to study and map the ocean activity relevant to the melting of the Antarctic sheet so that it can be determined how long it will be until cities are underwater.

With 40 per cent of the global population and 85 per cent of the Australian population currently living within coastal regions, the rising of sea levels in coming years caused from the melting of Antarctica's ice sheets is of major concern.

"The impact of the sea level will mostly be felt from extreme sea-level events, so it's not so much just the slow inundation from rising sea level, it's when you get extreme events," Dr Morrison says.

"These currently occur when you get like a king high tide combined with a storm event. You might remember back in 2016 there was one of these events on the northern beaches in Sydney and there were photos of swimming pools and backyards falling into the ocean.

"These extreme sea-level events do happen naturally but they used to happen infrequently and the frequency of these events is now increasing.

"The projections are that by 2050, most of the coastlines around Australia will experience what used to be a once-in-a-century ocean flooding event every single year." 

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